Ok I got some feedback recently some good, some bad and some ugly, I guess we better keep the Jace bashing to a minimum in future...(he he)
Anyway some of the feedback on Wall or Nothing got me thinking that maybe our message isn't clear enough, because one of them suggesting adding Wall Of Omen to the deck.. Dude! 4 x Walls of Omen costs more than the rest of the deck!
This blog is aboiut building decks when you only have budgets of £10/20 $15/30 to spend. We may comment on other decks and we welcome submissions about anything on topic.We're even planning one on a top budget Legacy Deck soon, but at our heart, we are cards for the masses...
So while there may be better cards for our Wall deck we're keeping it as it is because its cheap and fun...
And besides this was our thinkng...
Wall of Vines v's Wall of Omen
Vines is one drop with 3 in the ass and the all important reach. There isn't a card in standard that cnn topple it with the Leyline Of Vitality in place
Omens is storng with the cantrip, has one more in the ass, but costs one more and doesn't have the all important reach...
Verdict! Whilst drawing cards is great, this deck isn't about that.... Its about gaining life and digging in... We stay with the Wall of Vines
Oh and there's one more reason!
Wall of Omen todays price Magic Madhouse £3.99/$5.50
Wall of Vines same source £0.10$0.15
Sure, there's some argument for using Overgrown battlement, and tapping for mana is a great ability, (and we did suggest this as an alternative), but it still can't block fliers...
The Wall or Nothing deck works by being able to block anything your opponent can throw at you. Sitting back and either gaining life to keep you out of the range of ultimate effects (like Valakut Ramp, because when those mountains are on the field that card is over) or swinging in with huge fliers (an equipped gargolyle with it's ability paid, one stalwart and one leyline on the field will fly in for 8/8...) But the decks real win is simply to top deck your opponent. (leave them no way in, play only what you need to, keep a hand full of cards and use the elixir when you need to., eventually they will run out of cards)
Its strong against valakut ramp beacuse of the lifegain and safe passage...
It eats red deck...
It's strong against infect...
Its weaker against blue/white control and Mono Green Eldrazi Ramp (isn't everything?) But with a sideboard of leylines of sanctity for the former and tajura preservers for the latter, it can take even them.( which you can afford, because they are still cheaper than wall of omens...)
But here's where you really win...
Total build cost
Wall or Nothing £10
Single Card Cost
Eldrazi ramp/Valakut ramp Primeval Titan £35 (and you'll need four)
Blue White Control Jace the Mind Sculptor £65 (and you'll need four)
Of course Control This... will beat all of them and costs even less than the wall deck...(see the archives)
Anyway its good to know people are reading and what I'd really like to hear just now are ideas for other decks, and articles. So if you fancy writing something (constructive please) then email me... As for Jace bashing, well if anyone can think of better ways to use him and can actually use photoshop, please get intouch...
Later,
Gordon Vader...
I'm chill with rogue decks and all, rogue decks are awesome, especially budget rogue decks... but you are analyzing your deck as if you had no opponent, I think the deck would actually preform poorly at any major event and probably even FNMs.
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/470842/img/Jace.png
Yeah, he is good. Just because you can't afford him doesn't mean you should talk trash about him. I can't afford Jace and me and two of my friends who share cards with each other only pulled two over the course of many ZENZENWWK drafts but I understand that decks do need a way to combat Jace, he isn't a threat that can just be ignored (unless of course you are insanely aggressive, which is one of the ways to answer him btw). Also, when I make a deck that is both blue and combo/control Jace is almost always an auto-include, you can't deny the fact that he makes most blue control decks better (like Cryptic Command).
Thsnks for taking the time to comment and you may be right about the deck not being pro tour standard yet... But it's a starting point and somewhere between £10 and the £500 (hopefully nearer the £10 there is a tournament winner and we're gonna find it... As for Jace...Well personally I think its sad that cash wins games and I'm staying in my corner we're goijnhg to fight him with foir play... I do have a mono white rogue Deck that eats Blue white control and I'll post it soon... Thanks again for taking the time to comment and if you'd like to suggest a deck we'd be happy to post it... just try and keep it cheap... later
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